Israel has recently received messages from "senior Arab official" urging the Hebrew state to resume its assassinations attacks in the Gaza Strip, the Tel Aviv-based Maariv reported. According to the newspaper, one of the messages even said "take their heads off", in reference to the Hamas leadership in the coastal territory.
The Arab officials, according to the daily, urged Israel to hit Hamas if the latter decides not to resume the calm with Israel.
The Israeli hit-list includes top figures from Hamas military and political wings. On the top of the list are Hamas commanders Ahmed Jabari, Ibrahim Ghandour and Mohammed Deif, who has been on Israel's most wanted list for over a decade and was wounded several times in the past in Israeli strikes.
The Israel targets include also senior political leaders such as former Palestinian premier, Ismail Haniyeh, the former foreign minister Mahmoud a Zahar and the former interior minister, Saeed Siyam. Maariv reports that another name on the Israeli list is of Palestinian Legislative Council member and Chairperson of the Popular Committee against the Siege, Jamal Al Khudari. Israeli security sources have been claiming he is close aide to Haniyeh and "deeply involved in terror activities."
It should be mentioned that Israeli transport minister Shaul Mofaz was quoted recently as saying that Israel should "cut off the heads" of Hamas leaders in the Gaza Strip. He publicly declared his backing to the return of policy of assassination against the Hamas leaders.
This is not a surprise since some of these American stooges (Arab shiekhs, kings, presidents?, Emirs)have in the past cooperated with Israeli terror squad against Hizbollah. These countries are mainly Saudi Arabia and Jordon, the most shameless Arab officials one can find. Possibly stooges running the UAE are next, Mubarak ? it would not surprise me. It is about time that Hizbollah and Hamas and other resistance groups share and plan together against these US stooges running some of Arab countries. Hamas and Hizbollah need to do away with diplomatic approach toward these thugs and name them and shame them in public and make plans for some house cleaning.
Well said nima. The biggest traitors to Arabs and Muslims are these so called farciical kingdoms' run by big fat swines under the supervision of swine eaters in USA, UK, Palestine occupied Israel... What needs to be done to these swines is what Moa did to druggies in China and that is line them up against a wall and shoot the swines... Hezb and Hamas will never get any support from the swines.
What do you mean "USA CAN MAKE ANY COUNTRY INTO DUST!".. I guess you have not learned history very well.. do you rememmber what the arabs did to the US economy when they stopped selling OIL??!!!
We arabs have the planet under our command, but we are selfish, everyone does what would please himself..this is our plroblem. We could ruin the USA in one phone call.
Trade works both ways. If your sole export (aside from terrorism) is oil then you can't afford to stop supplying it. The US and the West in general are diversifying the suppliers of oil and the middle-east is running out. The huge reserves in Siberia, Africa and S America make your notion shaky at best but if we in the West wanted to 'steal' the oil as is so often claimed we have the might to do it and the US, UK, France, Russia and China all have the ability to destroy any Arab country in minutes. Remember that when you look for your desired 'Clash of civilizations'.
David Joseph Johnston, USA, (2009-01-14 , 14:30) - Reply
There will never be piece in arab states THEY HAVE NO MEANING OR UNDERSTANDING OF THE OF THE WORD. AND AS LONG AS AMERICA KEEPS subsidizing THE OIL RICH ARAB COUNTRIES THIS WILL ALL END SOON ,NO ONE NOT EVEN USA CAN GET OUT ALIVE!! P.S AND F*** ALL RELIGION ALL OF THEM ,THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE REASON FOR WAR AN UNSEEN GOD/GIVE ME A BREAK ALREADY
I agree Nima, it is the time to open our eyes and hearts to see the cold attitude of these arab stooges of the America, people need to unite agianst this tyrant rulers, inshallah their days are numbered.
without electricity HamAss stand losign the war. THey cannot use Epilady on women legs. thus their line of fire is not smooth. Of course if they decided to come out from hiding between women legs zannana will kiss them goodbye
Hamas IS the one standing in the way of peace, prosperity and security for the Palestinians. They do the bidding of Iran not the Palestinians. Ask your selves, what is the logic, reason or tactical advantage for the continued daily rocket attacks? Do they think Israel will surrender, leave, give in or retreat? Clearly it's to get them to respond for propaganda purposes, thats all. The Gaza crossings are closed due to these daily attacks which serve no clear purpose. They only serve their Iranian masters.
you are simply telling us the government lines of Israel. You are boring lot of people . try to be a bit more creative like think for yourself. That would be a good place to start.
Well if you look back you know that Israel was made in England and stamped into life by what call United Nations Council sorry I mean United State Nations Council. Hamas or any other Palestinian has the right to throw Rocket kill Zionests anywhere in their occupied land, or you forgot that land is PALESTINE! Wake up people you lied and believed your lie. Israel is the biggest lie in this World and at the end we will get rid of this lie. Israel will be haunted by its own nightmares.
You say that they ahve the right to fire rockets at civilians - bollocks. They have no right to murder under international law, Islam, Judaism or Christianity. Attacking civilian targets is wrong plain and simple. Enough civilians die when you target the military without choosing to murder the innocent. And as for ending this lie - Arabs have tried and failed repeatedly. How is Hamas going to beat Israel. It's not but it will kill a lot of Palestinians trying. That is an unjust war.
So you say that Killing civilian is against international LAW, What is this LAW? Who wrote it? Do you know? and if their was any REAL LAW is the law of justice ONLY? YOU do not make a nation refugees for 60 years and talk about LAW ,this is Hipocracy,and if they are sick and tired of your dream law that is UNfunctional that is ONLY comes to the rescue of the offender ,you have NO GOD ,you have NO soul or Consciuosness when open your big mouth ,think first.
It is clear the Ayatullahs from Gaza are dancing to the Iraninian tone. When will they start taking care of their own? Poor Gazen suffer the choice of decite. God is merciful? so far his ayatullah are saying no. God is blood
Robert Boganamus, Texas, (2008-12-29 , 16:31) - Reply
The hamas, its members and supporters are cowardly warriors who hide behind women and children to murder woman and children. Cowardly punks, I'm thinking that hamas are girls who dress like men, since they just cry and complain and are not man enough to stand up and fight. You Arab's would be better off doing what Israel says, your lives would be better, you really need to lose the hamas faggots, and live the good life of freedom. I guess thats why you people come all want to come to the USA.
all people do NOT want to come to use, you cant even take care of your own, drugs, homeless people, health services only for the rich, you have poor people in your own backyard, take care of your own problems before you start telling others what to do.
I noticed everyone replying lives far from Palestine and this should tell you something. Stop shooting from the hip. There is negative migration (meaning fewer people staying than going out) throughout the Arab and Nations. The USA has a net migration (addition) of 1.7 million new people entering every year. This does not include illegal's entering in droves. The USA has never had a net negative migration rate since its inception. So much for your nonsensical argument of who wants in and out!
No society is perfect. the argument that if your society has issues you can't condemn another is a means of convincing yourself you have moral authority whilst actually turning your back on those whom you claim to support. It is morally bankrupt. If we in teh West had adopted this attitude then we couldn't have condemned foot binding, Apartheid, Stalinism, Nazism, the genoicide in Rwanda.. or does this rule only apply to condemning Muslim atrocities?
You must be joking, you think ANYONE wants to come to the US of A?? no chance. The U.S and Israel are the biggest terrorists ion the world and mass murderers. Your war industries keep pushing for new and larger wars, your politicians are in the pockets of the banksters and the warlords and you dumb lot just seem to think that it's all in the defence of freedom and democracy. What a load rubbish. Palestinian kids throw stomes to defend themselves and you bomb them from the air with your F-16's. You cowards. And now you want to start another war, this time with Iran. I pray that never happens but if it does, I hope you get your arse kicked you murderers.
The above post gave a series of facts regarding immigration. You've just assumed that everyone else must inherently share your opinion. The US has net immigration therefore people must want to live there. You may not but let's face it your in London so you didn't want to live wherever your family came from.
THE ZIONIST ARMY ARE COWARDS.THEY RESORT TO USING HIGH TECH WEAPONRY AND CHEMICAL WEAPONS AGAINST A HELPLESS PEOPLE.ONE DAY THEY WILL A REAL ARMY AND THE ZIONIST ENTITY WILL CEASE TO EXIST AS A STATE.
Roots of Judeo-Fascism that we are seeing now perpetrated by Israeli thugs lies directly in the pages of Torah and Talmud the Jewish holy books. Sane Jews don't give a pig's ear about Talmud and its sick teachings especially regarding the treatment of GENTILES (non Jews)by Jews but Jewish taliban, fanatics and extremists (the foot soldiers of the beast of Zionism/Judeo-Fascism) rely on teachings of Talmud and Torah and for them to commit these massacres is part of doing what the BOOK said . While the civilized world is horrified by the sight and sounds of these daily massacres perpetrated by Jewish fanatic thugs, for these Jewish taliban it is a religious ritual
If the world is horrified by these 'massacres' then I am sure you'll be able to produce some evidence (not hyperbole, bile, rumour or innuendo but actual evidence) of at least one actual massacre - as the term would be understood by most of us.
in less than two weeks into this israeli savagery more than 800 Palestinians have dies majority of them civilians and you have the audacity to ask what massacre?
What world considers "massare" you as a Talmud loving jewish taliban consider it just another day. Are we supposed to be surprised?
A massacre is a slaughter of those unable to defend themselves. Well Hamas is firing rockets still. This is war and people die. When Israel launched a similar operation into Lebanon you called it a Hizbollah victory. Where is the evidence of deliverate targeting of civilians or prisoners or unarmed civilians being shot or anything we would recognise as a massacre.
You can't actually provide any examples of 'massacres' or 'war crimes'. You are just quoting a (probably unreliable) figure for total Palestinian dead and assuming (on what basis is unclear) that the 'majority' are civilians and that therefore they must have been deliberately targeted and killed illegally. Well that doesn't actually wash. If the IDF are routinely massacring civilians you must be able to produce some examples of clear cut illegal killings.
What civilized world considers massacre is just another religious deed for jews who follow Torah and its genocidal verses. Torah preaches its followers to "pluck down the high building" and "drive out the inhabitants of the land" and "dispossess the inhabitantns of the land", this is considered ethnic cleansig and maccare and genocide by civilized standard but a divine inspiration for torah believing jews. Could that be the source of reason why you seem confused and not see the massacre and genocide?
Lets read from Torah where it teaches and encourages ethnic cleansing and where these Jewish fanatics and murderers rely heavily to justify it and seek comfort. Lets look at Torah, Book of Numbers 33:50-53 :And the Lord spoke unto Moses in the plains of Moab by Jordan.saying,Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them when ye are passed Jordan into the land of Canaan, then ye shall DRIVE OUT all inhabitants of the land from before you,and destroy all their pictures and destroy all their images, and quite pluck down all their high places, and ye shall DISPOSSESS the inhabitants of the land, and dwell therein for I have given you the land to possess it,"
Didn't Mohammed order his followers to slaughter one of the 12 tribes of Israel? How is his order to commit genocide different? There is one respect - no one who follows the Tanak or Bible pushes this as law or has done for a thousand years.
ex[ecting a jewish fanatic like you to denounce genocide and ethnic cleansing is like trying to take the lines off a zebra. Your fanatic devotion to Torah is so strong that you are willing to defend genocide by simply lying about Islam and history. As it is because of jewish fanatics like you judaism has become a religion from hell.
As I've told you before. If I were Jewish I wouldn't be called James which isn't Jewish name. I am offended but racist slurs against anyone and hate directed at one group when it means that innocents including (in fact mostly) Muslims will have to suffer.
Can I just confirm your definition of war versus genocide? It seems to go if a single Muslim is killed (even one firing a rocket or AK47) by a non-Muslim it's genocide and wrong and evil. If Muslims target civilians, kills prisoners, tortures and enslaves in an attempt to destroy in whole or in part a group on ethnic, religious or racial lines it's war and justified.
Actually moving people out of a land ain't really genocide. This passage serves the roll of history not law or direction. If you look at the history of the English they did much the same on their arrival in England. And the Arabs were certainly not gentle with the populations they overran during their expansion. So what - it is ancient history.
it is israelis who use these passages from Torah in order to provide a divine cover and justification for their ethnic cleanising of Palestinians. These jewish fanatics have been using Torah as a real estate document. Maybe you can go and teach them they are wrong. My feeling is, you will get your ass handed to you by the same land stealing , land worshipping basatrds you try so hard to defend. Good luck , you will need it.
If they use the word of the Torah as a cover for warcrimes can you give us an example of a Rabbi or senior Israeli politician or General quoting the Torah and saying that proves that we are justified in our actions? I'll bet you can't and that your response is along the lines of 'Of course they do, they do it all the time' followed by some crass abuse with no actual facts or evidence produced at any point.
Folks, I need to remind you that we are not reading from Mein Kampf, we are reading from Torah. This is the divine justification for ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in hands of Israelis. There is more in Torah, where Moses PBUH , according to these Torah writers , becomes a genocidal mass murderer and a sexual predator. (If they can do this to their own prophet , see what they will do to other religions and other religions' prophet)
Torah, Book of Numbers 31:9 "And the children of Israel took (all) the women of Midian captives and their little ones.... "
Numbers:31:12 "and they brought the captives and the prey and the spoil unto Moses...
Numbers:31:15 "And Moses said unto them , have you saved all the women alive?
Numbers:31:17:"now therefore kill every male among the little ones and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him."
How many of these women? once again Numbers:31:"And thirty and two thousands in all of woman that had not known man by lying with him."
these Torah writers Moses PBUH orders the murder of all the captive women and children and only keeps the virgins alive.hhhmmm....can any one think of a more evil sexual predator?when Torah can so easily and so comfortably demonstrate the eas with which thousands of women and their little children can be killed simply because the man said so, why is any one shocked or surprised that the current massacare of palestinians in hands of Jewish fanatic thugs is happeneing. This is their way to a better JEWISHNESS , this is their way to become a better BELIEVER, this is their way to heavens, this is their way to paradise.
How old were the prophet Mohammed's wives? I've asked you teh question before and you have refused to answer. Islam's prophet was by any modern definition a paedophile. You have no moral high ground to occupy here.
your holy book Torah says Moses ordered the murder of thousnads of women and their children and only kept the virgin ones to be raped later and you instead of denouncing this savagery choose to change the subject and lie about Islam and its great propeht? Today religion of Moses PBUH because of jewish taliban like you and those perverted rabbis has become a religion form hell.
Nothing in Judaism suggests that one will eb rewarded in heaven for killing. In fact many scholars regard Moses forty years in teh wilderness as a penance for the pain inflicted upon the Egyptian people. Of course in Islam those who die killing the infidel are offered seventy virgins in Paradise (or possibly 70 raisins depneding upon the translation).
Lets read from Psalm 137 that many of these Jewish Taliban read it and memorize it with such a religious zeal and passion.
Psalm 137:
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7 Remember, O LORD, what the Edomites did
on the day Jerusalem fell.
"Tear it down," they cried,
"tear it down to its foundations!"
8 O Daughter of Babylon, doomed to destruction,
happy is he who repays you
for what you have done to us-
9 he who seizes your infants
and dashes them against the rocks
that is Psalm that these fanatics believe in. Why are we supposed to be surprised by the savagery that is being perpetrated on Palestinians by these Jewish fanatic thugs? The roots of evil are in Torah and Talmud.
Maybe it says it in the psalms and maybe it does not - but either way the psalms are NOT a part of the Torah - they are songs / poetry
And if u r wrong about one maybe u r about the other too!!!
JEWS: A rebellious people "Ye have been rebellious against the Lord from the day that I knew you DEUTERONOMY 9:24
A STIFF NECKED PEOPLE: 'For I know thy rebellion, and thy stiff neck behold, while I am yet alive with you this day, Ye have been rebellious against the Lord, and how much more after my death? DEUTERONOMY 31:27
Are Israeli actions criminal? Absolutely! Would the moderates (in Israel) be willing to cut off their left arms to be able to live in a land of fairness and peace to all? Absolutely! Are many of the surrounding countries run by stooges of the USA? Absolutely! Who has the most to gain by continued strife and bloodshed? Sorry all you haters---but Israel has the least to gain here. As long as all the stooges can keep the Arab Street focused on a common hatred of Israel---they can avoid the populus uprising that is long overdue in the Middle East. What are the brothers doing to help the poor forsaken Palestinians?
As long as Arab leaders support the Zionist Entity
Apartheid State there will be chaos without end. What goes around comes around and one day those Arab leaders puppets and bootlicks whom are nothing but traitors will be next hanging from the gallows.
G*d sees and hears all.
It's really funny that mima is talking about thinking for your self, as she is clearly regurgitating the poisonous propaganda she picks up from the snakes at her local mosque.
With regards to the list of killings, I think mima must be on top of the list. Her crimes include talking so much rubbish we all get a headache. I am amazed the FBI didn't sort her out yet.
The Palestinian as well as the Israelis want Peace..They are tired on both sides and want to find common ground and come to a final status understanding. It hurts me to see that Hammas is the entity that is getting in the way of real Peace. They do not want peace...they want to wipe all Israelis off this Earth...That is Hammas...but not the Palestinians as a whole...If only the people of Paletine could rise to overthrow them...
first get the knowledge to knw abt your country i bet u dnt knw who de pres is.inshallah we shall soon cut off isrealis heads itsssss cominnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.sooooooooon
When jewish kids are raised with genocidal teachings of Talmud and Torah , 365 days a year , then how can one expect them to behave different than savages when they grow up? For civilized world the savagery of jewish savages in Gaza is beyond belief , yet for these jewish fanatic savages this is the key to a better JEWISHNESS, this is how they get closer to heaven, they are doing what Torah told them to do. Roots of evil lie inside the existing Torah and Talmud, that is where the devil lives.The existing Torah and Talmud are the roots of this evil.
It seems that Nima is writing the lies she has heard from some organization that has brainwashed her. In fact most of judaism praises life, and socail action. It is interesting that she doesn't quote any of the talmudic teachings that tell you to share your profits with the less fortunate and your food with strangers.
From teh Qu'ran: 9:123: “Oh ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers and let them find harshness in you.” 2:191- “Kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from wherever they drove you out.” 2:193- “Fight them on until there is no more tumult and religion becomes that of Allah” That is a rallying call for genocide so by your arguments it is no surprise that Muslims behave like animals.
DO you really think that what ISREAL is doing is right? You should be sitting in a mental hospital,Remmember one VERY important thing The Quran say defend your self from the agressores ,NOT be a savage assesin and crimminal like your beloved Zionists,and Palastine is for the palastinian
The quotes above don't say defend yourself, they say spread your religion by force and stamp upon any who is an unbeliever. Of course you can find concilatory passages in the Quran but it also explicitly orders violence to be directed against non-believers aggressively.
Civilized world can counter the Judeofascism in many ways. They should grab the bull by the horn. Civilized world should demand that Hamas be armed with high tech weapons, with jet fighters, tanks,and all that is needed in order to defend the citizens of Gaza from the Torah thumping blood thirsty jewish savages who have shown absolutely no repsect for the lives, dignity and property of NOBLE Palestinians,
Civilized world should demand bombing israel back to their senses just like the Serb savages were bombed in Balkan war
According to the teachings of Talmud lives of non jews (Gentiles) are worth nothing . According to the teahings of Talmud if a jew had sex or raped a gentile woman or an animal!! It is the Gentile woman who has to be stoned to death even if she is only three years and one day old (three is the age of marriage set for jewish girls in Talmud). This kind of disprespect for the lives of non jews stems from the teachings of Talmud, the book of all horrors. Lets read once again from talmud.
The Talmud does not have the authority you claim so your points aren't worth a whole heap of beans, but you take the Qu'ran to be the literal word of God and it says at Sura al-Ma'idah:51 “Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends.”, Sura al-Nisa':34ff allows for beating of one's wives and 8:12- “I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off.” So yes I can think of a more hateful document than the Talmud.
I've educated you about this before you silly silly little girl. The minimum age prescribed is not three it is the early teens (based essentially on when a girl or boy reaches pubity). Of course in modern Israel the age of consent is 16 as laid down by law whilst in the Muslim world it is what?
Hussein, South Africa, (2009-01-10 , 21:04) - Reply
Why is Israel not following the original teachings of Moses,peace be upon him?How can the Talmud be authentic when the teachings do not value the lives of all human beings?Are gentiles considered like sheep for the slaughter?
I am deeply concerned about the Jewish beliefs and opinion of their fellow human beings.
The Talmud is a religio/legal exploration of the meaning of the Tanak not an authorative source of law. It's the difference between custom law and statute law but funnily enough what was considered custom law three thousand years ago doesn't stand up in a modern court and whilst some bits are still adhered to a lot is not. And Nima's lying about what it says.
In Torah Moses orders thousands of women and their little children to be slaughtered and he says:" only keep the virgin ones FOR YOURSELF". Since jews were not allowed to marry gentiles , those women were kept to be raped later on. hahahah.Is this any better than Talmud? Torah portatis Moses as a genocidal sexual predators, is that any better than Talmud?
Moses PBUH is a great prophet but Torah drags him in the mud as the worst genocidal sexual predator.
Actually, nothing of the sort happens in the Torah. However, under the guise of Islam the Sudnaese government and Janjaweed militias have carried exactly the crimes you describe against the Christian and animist black Africans ; and they're doing that - well the slaves are still being raped and mutilated in Khartoum right now. In one case a young girl who culdn't stop crying after watching her parents brutally murdered had her leg cut off as punishment. Forced conversions are very much part of the process, clearly demonstrating the religious link. Islam has no moral high ground on these issues. Get that through you thick skull.
it's so SIMPLE!!! Leave Israel and it's people alone and they will leave anyone of you alone also. This is not a war between Muslims and Jews, this is just a FOOLISHNESS of HAMAS! How can the world respect them while they can't even RESPECT their government? If these Hamas leaders and fighters are really brave...then, dont hide in their WOMENs SKIRTS!!! dont use the children. Get out from your cages and fight Israeli soldiers. Dont sacrifice your women and children just to win the WORLD OPINION!!
The name Palestine went out of use centuries ago and was only reapplied to this region by the British after we assumed responsibility for the area as a mandate after the dissambling of the Ottoman Empire. It was a clear throwback to the concept of a Biblical (Jewish) Palestine as ruled by the Romans at the time of Christ's birth. Ironic that you should choose to call the area Palestine.
According to Talmud that is currently being taught in Jewish religious schools in Israel, a father can have intercourse with his own daughter as long as she is younger than three years and one day old. a mother can have intercourse with thier own son as long as he is younger than nine years and one day old. A father banging his own daughter is not commiting a rape as long as she is younger than three, but she might lose her virginity, (a concern for those fathers!!) but the good rabiis have worked out all sides of this issue. Their answer is :"her hymen tears and then heals over".
You keep spinning this rubbish without understanding any of what it is about. You willfully ignore any explanation so I won't dignify this filth with a response except to ask what is the relevance of this to Gaza?
No that is all lies. The Talmud is very clear that incest is a sin. Confusingly it regards all incest as rape. Any remotely critical and impartial analysis of the text will show this for the nonsense it is but Nima hasn't bothered her arse to carry out an impartial analysis she is just regurgitating the same hate speeches that were discredited in Victorian times as being ridiculous.
Now explain how the 'religion of peace' contextualizes this.. 47:4- “Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), strike off their heads; at length; then when you have made wide Slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives”: thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens.”
It is written in the Mishnah: "A girl of three years and a day is sanctified (as a woman is acquired) through intercourse…if one of those forbidden to have relations with her according to the Torah does have relations with her, he is killed because of her, and she is exempt. If she is less than that (less than three years and a day), it is as one who sticks a finger into an eye" (Niddah 5:4).
.. trying to suggest that rape only becomes rape in Judaism once a girl reaches the age of three years and a day? Are you actually suggesting that at an age when intercourse with an adult would probably kill a child Judaism actively encourages some kind of paedophilic free for all but once she's three and day it becomes a sin? Surely even one such as yourself has enough critical faculties to realise that that is nonsense.
According to Talmud, jewish book of laws, a father can bang his own daughter if she is less than 3 years and a day old. That is Talmud talking.
A father or a mother can have intercourse with their own son as long as he is younger than 9. that is talmud. Do not change the subject. Grow some groins to denounce the pedophilia and incest sanctioned and preached by Talmud. God will love you more , (some rabbis may not) , have some respect for lives and dignity of 3 year old girls. will you?
The sages of the Talmud explain the Mishnah's simile "as one who sticks a finger into an eye": Just as an eye, if poked by a finger, gives off a tear and then once again gives off tears, so is it when a man puts his penis in a girl younger than three, her hymen tears and then heals over. This is why it is not called intercourse in matters of prohibition or of acquisition (Niddah 45a).This savage teachings brings up a savage people and this is what we are seeing unfold in Gaza. These jewish savages are committing war crime after war crime simply because their Holy book encourages them to do.
Nowhere is it suggested that this isn't inetrcourse. It's in a section on dowry payments (no longer practised in Israel) and explains a child who is raped remains legally a virgin. Of course in Nima's ideal society the girl would be executed for adultery.
""A girl of three years and a day is sanctified (as a woman is acquired) through intercourse…if one of those forbidden to have relations with her according to the Torah does have relations with her, he is killed because of her, and she is exempt. If she is less than that (less than three years and a day), it is as one who sticks a finger into an eye" (Niddah 5:4
this is from talmud. No need for your des[erate twists and spins.
It is in a section about dowry payments, which are no longer practised in Judaism, in a book that is only considered authoritative by a minority of Jews and is about whether a girl is legally a virgin not on whether it is rape or not. It is implicit even in your selective quotation that it is considered rape, hence the perpetrator is executed. It isn't even equivocal or hard to udnerstand.
how does dowery relate to incest? Explain to me. Talmud is very clear in what it is preaching. No amount of mumbo jumbo by you will make it look any less vile. There is no sugar coating INCEST , dear sweet daddy.
they still teach this Talmud in jewish religious schools in israel. They teach it in US to .Teaching Talmud should be banned since in one hand police is supposed to arrest pedophiles and incest kings and on the other hand pedophilia and incest are being taught in these jewish religious schools in the name of religion. How pathetic.
..the article posted above this one on the Albawaba website featuring the stated views of a senior Muslim Cleric in Saudi Arabia stating that girls of 11 and 12 should marry and that it is harmful for them to wait till adulthood to marry. The age of consent in Israel is 16. And incest is excplicitly banned in the Tanakh.
in all this mud slinging at religions is how do people actually behave? The holy books of Islam, Christianity and Judaism all have passages which can be used to show their inherent bigotry. The Qu'ran has far more and far less equivocal than the others. But do people follow what you perceive to be exhortations to ethnic cleansing. Well the fact that there is still a 'Palestinian' population in the West bank being fed, watered and provided with power by Israel (it gives more aid than any Muslim country) rather suggests not.
Islam and current Judaism are not comparable. Islam is the religion of PEACE which also has rules for fighting a war (not a genocide), instead Torah has genocidal verses which have become the divine inspiration for these jewish savages. the order to "drive out the inhabitants of the land" is in Torah not in Quran, the order to " dispossess the inhabitants of the land" is in Torah not in Quran. As long as jews, sane and insane, do not sanitize their Torah and Talmud from these genocidal teachings, there will always be jewish savages with divine mission ready to do genocide and massacre after massacre. Do not splash your filth on Quran and Muslims.
47:4- “Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), strike off their heads; at length; then when you have made wide Slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives”: thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens.”
a typical jewish sport is to play dumb and stupid when you have lost the debate. Why worry, all the victims of these war crimes are GENTILES anyways, what is the big fuss ?!!
Accroding to Talmud, if a GENTILE woman was raped by a jew, it is the woman who has to be stoned to death since it was she who made the jew sin. That opens a window into your dark world which cant see any massacre any war crime and...if the victims are GENTILES, the massacre and war crime lose their meaning altogether.
Can you confirm for me that no Muslim woman has ever been put to death for adultery having been raped. If not can you confirm that this an archaic practice which no longer takes place. Can you confirm that in Sharia court a raped woman's evidence is weighted equally with her attacker? Can you confirm that you have actually given some thought to something you have said at some point in the past ever? Why pick a fight over an issue which is irrelevent to the argument and where your own beloved religion occupies the lowest moral position of any of the Abrahamic religions.
This getting very tedious. 1. I'm not Jewish. 2. You've resorted to taunting the dead killed in the Holocaust - how on earth can you think you've won the debate. 3. Are any points you've made remotely relevant to the issue? Change the damn record.
what "hamas" had brought to the palestinian people?only death and death,they trow one missile which maybe will break a window in shderot,and the get 50 people die.......hamas is not good for palestine
For all those who applaud the hamas fighters. Are'nt you a little embarrased that these so called fighters are hiding behind civilians. Is this what Muslims call Jihad ? Civilized people call this cowardice . They cower in the basements like rats caught in a trap . These are who you call heroes ? This alone reveals the tru nature of your movement.
You smuggled all those guns and weapons into the Gaza so that you can cower in basements and not fight ? COWARDS !
Hiding behind Civilians? get your story straight. First day the tanks entered gaza ,the Zionist army ,( the crimminals) lined up 100 civilians and made them enter to a house, ordering them not to leavefor their SECURITY? the next day the y bombed the house,ONLY one boy 12 years old survived to tell the story, is he a fighter or the others? The Zionists are the REAL cowards ,they hide in their fear from the truth in their weapons. Justice has left this earth the day zionist England start ruling the world with their masonic Bloody vampires
Damn! You've revealed our English secrets. We are indeed run by Masonic vampires. I thought the conspiracy would remain a secret until we were ready to turn day into night and take control of everything. Damn your truth seeking nature. On another point, given that houses in Gaza are really quite small, is it physically possible to fit 100 people into one?
I would say those jews who dies in WWII were mother of all cowards. They did not even fight back. They could have done what Hamas is doing , fight back agianst the savages , they could have wraped a bomb around their fat belly and killed themselves and few of the Nazi thugs just like the way hamas is killing the Zionist thugs, but those jews were too COWARDS to do that. World should arm and trian Hamas to fly fighter jets and drive tanks and give them all sorts of armamaent and make thema classic army and that way Hamas does not have to blend in with population.
I'm glad to see Hamas supporters showing their real vile colours and hate filled, logic absent worldview to the widest possible audience. You're a hate monger, an idiot and live in a fantasy world.
These scum can't even aim a rocket so they're not going to be able to fly a jet. But the point is Israel would love for them to form a proper army then they could wipe them out in an afternoon with nest to no civilian casualties. (That is what they normally do to Arab armies) Hamas have no interest in fighting clean within the rules of war. No one forces them to use schools as launch sites or to disguise themselevs amongst the civilian population. That's the way they want to fight. For them civilian causlties amongst the Palestinians are as great a victory as killing an Israeli soldier. They like the dirty war. they have no concept of anything else.
I am a little confused as to why we consider the gazans innocent civilians.
Fact: Hamas was voted into power by a vast majority of gazans
Fact: a majority of Gazans favor jihad and firing rockets at Israel
Fact: Muslim Terrorists always consider the general Israeli guilty and therefore open to attack.
Why is it that the world should take pity on Gazans if we apply the same logic to them. They have brought the wrath of Israel upon themselves. They are the only ones who can stop the war
Gazans are beginning to learn thier votes do mean something and should be a little smarter in whom to vote for
Apparently both of you have no idea what is going on in Gaza.So you call Hamas cowards when Israel uses all kinds of weapons against a civilian population? Using the same argument that Gazans voted for Hamas, all Israeli citizens are trained soldiers hence all of them are targets!
Try to get the facts right by understanding the details of the conflict.As for Taisir - what other alternative do Palestinians have? The corrupt Palestinian Authority? Dahlan? Abbas? They embezzled millions of dollars that are for the Palestinian people. At least Hamas leadership is more educated and trustworthy with the money (check the background of the Palestinian Authority leadership - its a joke).
john, First, I do know what I am talking about. Have you ever lived overseas in Israel . Have you ever left the the country that you have such a deep understanding of the Arab psyche. You are just another liberal who thinks he can fix all the problems with a little talk. I will not even argue this point with you because cowardice on the battlefield is a concept you obviously are unable to comprehend. Hiding behind civilians is cowardice ! Especially when it is done intentionally to draw an enemy response.
Your understanding of the Arab world belies your ability to offer any sensible answers.
Major Mo, Michigan USA, (2009-01-13 , 20:28) - Reply
If you look at history, we were who asked the Palestinians to hold elections and forced Hamas to join it and they won, when they won we wouldnt recognize them and tried to have our inside men in Fatah and Abass wipe them out. What would u fight like if u were Hamas, armed only with cpl of machine guns and home made rockets against the best armed army in the world, an AK against an F16, this is called a gorrilla war fare,
Major Mo, Michigan USA, (2009-01-13 , 20:24) - Reply
It like the American saying says, clean your yard before you ask your neighbor to clean his. I hope we learn for the final time that we change our leader ship in the Palestinian Authority which has no authority at all, Abbas should be tried for high Treason, as well as Mubarak and his men. These traitors hurt us more than Israel does.
Richard L. Provencher, Truro, Nova Scotia, Canada, (2009-01-14 , 03:40) - Reply
Stop the rockets against Israel, in exchange for all countries helping to build a Palestinian State. Have Hamas put down their weapons and give the government back to those who wish to create a society of justice for their people so that terror organizations like Hamas do not use women and children as shields in a futile war. Use the money from Iran to build a better style of living.
the existing Judaism under the rabbis and generals has become a religion from hell. If there was any doubt about thisbefore the Gaza genocide, there is absolutely no doubt now. Judeo-Fasicsm needs to be defeated just like nazism was .
Genocide is an attempt to destroy a people in whole or in part for any one of a number of reasons but primarily those of racial identity. So the Gaza intervention is genocide is it? Why then once Hamas was smashed did the IDF withdraw? If their intent was wanton slaughter why stop once they'd rendered the enemy helpless? Why weren't the mass rapes and slaughters you say that Israel seeks perpetrated? Why didn't they kill everyone in sight? Why were the casualties so low?
When isreal was made a country. it only took one day till the arabs countrys atacked it. You yourselves clearly hate wisdom and facts. as for hamas what is the definicition of a robber if he wears a mask and goes where he is not supposed to. I see terorists.
they hide amoung the population when they are being atacked, come out when they are not. As for thier masks, what do they hide thier face for. Scarred of someting. Yes you guys kill, behead, kidnap and then you dare say you are religious, You clearly love your father and follow his same actions. satan he loves the same things.
I would say those jews who died in WWII were the mother of all COWARDS, they did not even fight back. They could have decided to wrap some bombs around their fat bellies and kill themsleves and a few of the Nazi thugs just like teh Palestinians kill the Zionist thugs but those jews were too coward to do that, if they had fought back, now world would have some respect for them. Gazan have proven to be the braves of the braves
if your opinion on the jews that died in WWII is as its written - then you obviously have never faced the situation yourself. I would argue that if you did, you wouldn't be reading this now. The jews and muslims and christians who died in WWII did not die in vain. They valued life ...and suicide bombers of today do not value life, as shown by their mere willingness to die for a cause that needs revisiting...
Being the victim of genocide does not equate to cowardice. In fact many Jews served heroicly in the allied forces and the revolts in Warsaw, E Europe and elsewhere are well documented.
terror does not pay. you have seen Ham-Ass begging for Epilady since most legs of women where they hide are unshaved. Send Epilady to Ham-ASS so they'll have a smoother line of fire
Can there be no peace? Will you not stop your mind of killing, to accept that we are all the same human creature, to try acceptance of one another? What is wrong with everybody? Make peace and feed the people, shelter the people, stop being the greedy, and free the people from misery or it will ultimately destroy you. Please.
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